I hate the Printer Cartridge Scam
Posted by Rod in TechBiz at 3:20 pm on Friday, 2 May 2008

I hate

That feels better.
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    Comment by Conor Boyd at 3:38 pm on 2 May 2008

    Buy them online from Computer Food (https://www.consumables.co.nz/default.asp) or Corporate Consumables (http://www.corpcons.co.nz/).

    I have no affiliation with either, other than being happier ordering from them than trying brick and mortar places.




    Comment by Rua at 3:49 pm on 2 May 2008

    Not to mention the constant change in actual printers from the same manufacturer, i.e. they develop a new model to use a completely different cartridge about every 6 months… for some reason the cartridge technology for all previous iterations was not a good enough design to be reused. (hmm, planned obsolescence?)

    AARGH

    amen.




    Comment by Bob Pinchin at 4:01 pm on 2 May 2008

    Absolutely agree, bought a cheap HP printer for my kids. Thought I’d be smart (knowing that the they come with little ink) and bought a spare set of cartridges…They cost more than the printer!. Then then the printer companies wonder why people go and get cartridges refilled rather buy theirs. Buyer beware - a cheap printer is usually offset by high running costs!




    Comment by Scott at 4:28 pm on 2 May 2008

    Yeah, the trick is to buy a printer when they’re on special, use the ink it comes with then sell it on TradeMe and buy a new printer - often works out cheaper than buying the cartridges and you rarely have to worry about hardware problems.

    But it would make so much more sense to make the printers more expensive and reduce the cost of cartridges. Thank god cars don’t run on printer ink!




    Comment by Sigurd Magnusson at 4:38 pm on 2 May 2008

    I totally agree. I’ve had just about as many printers as ink cartridges, and now I just print stuff at work.

    At work, our colour laser printer seems to have an infinite quantity of toner. I think its lasted something like 2 years for nearly 20 people.

    I think the answer will be when the $2000-3000 colour laser printer commoditizes.
    That might be a while… where’s the incentive for the printer companies to do much about it?
    Oh, and aren’t we supposed to be automating everything, obsoleting the printer, and being sustainable? :P




    Comment by Glen Barnes at 5:24 pm on 2 May 2008

    Rod, with your accounts on Xero with emailed invoices and your business plans on PlanHQ why do you even need to print ;-) Seriously I find that I print less and less these days and buy printer cartridges maybe twice a year.




    Comment by max at 6:28 pm on 2 May 2008

    @ Sigurd Magnusson
    I suspect there was a service man coming and refilling your printer coz all large copy-centre type printers come on per-click basis. It’s actually a clever business model: pay a small amount upfront, print as much as you want, pay per page or just pay a monthly fee if you print too little. Still, the ink manufacturer wins.




    Comment by Will at 7:09 pm on 2 May 2008

    What price for a simple USB inkwell??




    Comment by Julian Gall at 7:13 pm on 2 May 2008

    I have a small colour laser (HP 2605dn) with duplex printing. A set of cartridges costs a significant portion of the cost of the printer itself but lasts for ages (2000+ pages). Currently printing costs are running at about 3c for b/w page and 10c for col. This seems good value and the printer has been totally reliable.




    Comment by Julian101.com at 7:56 pm on 2 May 2008

    Maybe we need a “Printer2.0″ thats free for distribution, built using ‘Ruby on Recyclable Plastic’ can be copied for all your friends and is marketed via word of mouth (not sold in shops).

    To print, we could send a tweet on Twitter to a SaaS model printer app called ‘Pwintr’ that interfaces with the printer via a Bluetooth dongle plugged into a pc.

    Only problem is we’d need a cheaper source of paper as random Pwintr Tweeters would send short messages to the printer like “Going to mums house” and “I’m bored - yum, a biscuit”




    Comment by James at 4:22 am on 3 May 2008

    I smashed up my Epson inkjet printer on the balcony with a cricket bat after two cycles of rip-off refills costing 75% of the cost of the printer.

    That felt pretty good, as did pictures of the destroyed electronics.

    I have since bought a laser, not going back to the inkjet scam, I’m sorry.




    Comment by James at 4:24 am on 3 May 2008

    Oh, and guess how long it took before needing to refill the inkjet? All of a month and a half.

    Running for 4 months on the laser now.




    Comment by Sara at 10:37 am on 3 May 2008

    Hmmm I’m about to buy (recommended by consumer.org) a Canon Pixma IP4500 Inkjet. The running costs didn’t seem too bad… Tell me to run away now if I need to…




    Comment by Harvey at 9:36 am on 5 May 2008

    Laser’s may not be the cheapest.
    We’ve got a HP OfficeJet Pro L7580 All-in-One Printer for our small office. Its a $500 LAN-based high performance copier/fax/scanner/and inkjet colour printer that claims to be cheaper per page than laser printers. I haven’t done the maths but it certainly is v. economical, fast, and works well.

    Interestingly, we moved office recently and it didn’t work after the shift. I phoned the HP helpline and they couriered a replacement and took the dead one away under the hardware warrantee - no cost, no questions. Cant complain about that!

    Yes try computerfood.co.nz for printer consumables - very competitive prices and they offer refills and 3rd party alternatives.




    Comment by Julian101.com at 10:40 am on 5 May 2008

    On lazer printers…
    We simply buy a new printer when the toner runs out. It’s cheaper…




    Comment by Tim S at 3:46 pm on 6 May 2008

    I use Cartridge World for the refurbished cartridges, they are cheaper, the guy is knowledgable about printer cartridges, and it makes me feel like I’m contributing something to the environment (or contributing something less to the environment as the case may be)




    Comment by Tim at 2:29 am on 16 May 2008

    I’ve given up on cartridge guzzling printers in my office.. now use PhotoFactory supplied CIS (Continuous Ink System) Epson Stylus CX5900 multifunction 4 colour inkjet. Comes with retro fitted CIS unit (4x 100ml externally attached bottles/tanks. Replacement ink $43/100ml bottle, easy to refill using syringe or small funnel)

    See http://photofactory.co.nz/economical_inkjet_printer.htm (page needs updating)

    –Tim